Silent Hill: The Return of a Classic | AI and Aliens: Fear The Future

Projektitachi (00:21.371)
What is up everybody? Welcome back to another week of the gz chopshop podcast. I'm your host project itachi joined by my good friend and co's war nurse and it's october So obviously we had to have a spooky season episode So I kind of wanted to talk about some of our favorite horror games movies or shows To kind of set the mood for some things and I think it was last year We had done the lore

of Silent Hill. And that was a phenomenal episode. If you guys haven't checked it out, you know, you can it's still up. I think I called it the silent Welcome to Silent Hill and it had the lore. And we now have the Silent Hill 2 remake that is dropped this month. And I haven't gotten to play it personally. I've been watching some of my favorite YouTubers played and I got to say.

It just gets me so excited for when I finally get to play it.

Daniel (01:22.483)
The game's getting like nothing but love. People are loving this game.

Projektitachi (01:25.915)
Yeah. And I'm like, and I was so scared because I was like, man, Konami, please do not ruin this. I think Konami has realized that they were ticking everyone off after they just ruin things with Kojima. So much so that they were asking on their social media, hey, if we can repair things with Kojima, would you guys take

Daniel (01:51.252)
Hahaha!

Projektitachi (01:55.815)
be willing to forgive us and then everyone was like, yes, now go do it. So I'm like, all right, know, can

Daniel (02:03.086)
That was the right thing to do by the way. You don't see devs doing that very often asking, hey buddy.

Projektitachi (02:08.743)
Yeah, we may have messed up. So, yeah.

Daniel (02:13.462)
And Silent Hill is getting the love it deserves. It deserves a comeback. is such a rich, terrifying, amazing story.

Projektitachi (02:19.506)
Yes.

Projektitachi (02:23.419)
Yes, and for all of you who are running the mod on PC, that removes the fog.

Daniel (02:27.47)
No.

You're monsters. You're the monster.

Projektitachi (02:32.657)
You're the monsters. I'm disappointed in you. You call yourself a gamer. Why would you play Silent Hill and remove the fog? It's a shame on you. Shame. Shame.

Daniel (02:43.102)
I highly suspect it's just for the look at this and not really them actually playing the game that way. Because it really, I mean, it takes a huge part of the game away when there's like no eeriness and just like, what? Why would you take that away?

Projektitachi (02:48.685)
Look what I can do. Yeah.

Projektitachi (03:01.831)
Yeah. So I got some interesting facts. I don't remember all of the states, but my mom knows I'm a huge horror movie fan. I'm always watching horror movies all through the year, but especially in October. And she was like, well, you know, here's some fun facts for you. She was like, you know, the top like five most haunted states in America. And I was like, no, but I'm like,

I'm assuming we're one of the, you know, top five and come to find out Pennsylvania happens to be number two. And I believe New York takes the number one spot. So I was like, so we're right next door and California is on there too. And I was like, so I've lived in two of the most haunted States in America. That is amazing. That's great. No, that's, that's not. And it's kind of funny to find out that Pennsylvania is such a haunted state because

I think a lot of people when they come to PA, they go to Philly and Philly is like, it's a lively city. But the rest of Pennsylvania is honestly just land. Like we still have the Amish here. We have a lot of open land, a lot of no lights anywhere land. And I found this out when I was doing my road trip and I actually drove through my state to get to Philly. I was like, you'll hit a city and then it's just

land. Baron haunted looking land for miles. And then you'll hit a town. And the town doesn't look like the kind of place you would get out of your car even and gas it up. It was like you get out of your car, you wind up in Silent Hill, which as I mentioned last year, Silent Hill is based off of Pennsylvania. So was like,

Yeah, guys, come on, come on over and visit Pennsylvania. Get a real life scare. Why just play Silent Hill when you can visit Silent Hill?

Daniel (05:01.76)
Would you like to know a little fun fact here? So Silent Hill does something with their sort of apparitions and ghosts that you don't see very often in media of any form. And it's that they portray them in a way that's actually correct, but not socially correct. Let me explain.

Now don't know the names of the cameras and stuff specifically, but what I do know is this. In the early 1800s, when the first cameras came into existence, they were first created, I don't know how many people know this, but there was a time where people at the beginning, like early 1800s, they had to be very still for cameras.

And it took sometimes like minutes, like minutes for a photo to take. And you had to sit there. And that's why you don't see people smiling in these photos is because who can hold a smile for like five minutes while this thing develops a photograph of that person? You're not. That's why everyone's not smiling. Well, before these cameras were utilized,

Projektitachi (06:09.309)
Yeah.

Daniel (06:24.61)
When people talked about ghosts, were never talked about, ghosts were never see through, they were never apparitions, they were never hovering on the ground, they were never partially there, they looked like you and me. That was it. And you could only tell that they, like you could barely tell that it wasn't a real person. After the development of the first cameras,

they would take a picture of someone and if the camera was ever like, if the lighting was like kind of like angled or off or the camera ever so slightly kind of shifted or moved or something in the background that the camera was trying to take the picture of ever like moved.

It would cause a very vaguely hard to see, almost replica of that person in the background. And it would make it look like somebody was in the background in an almost humanoid shape hovering over the ground, very see-through. And that right there was the beginning of, it's haunted. It's haunted photos. And it just escalated from there.

Projektitachi (07:27.932)
Mm-hmm.

Haunted photos.

Daniel (07:37.101)
So I always thought that was cool. There's a name for that camera, and there's definitely more like lore accurate specifics to this. But that's kind of just the gif there. So if anyone knows more information on it and more details, by all means, share. But I just thought that was kind cool.

Projektitachi (07:55.495)
Probably just shattered a few horror buffs like...

Daniel (07:57.91)
Yeah, like ghosts, how we see them in media, that's not, that's a very recent thing in history.

Projektitachi (08:05.445)
It's what makes it creepier too is when you hear stories of people who talk about it the way you you mentioned and they're like the person was there now I like to watch like chills top 15 on YouTube just in the background background noise and when I see the videos for the most part in my head I can explain what they probably experience but when I see the ones of like workers and then they're like you see the camera and this guy is talking to no one

Daniel (08:19.106)
Mm-hmm.

Daniel (08:33.769)
Mm-hmm.

Projektitachi (08:34.311)
But then you see them, they're like shaking this guy's hand and they're having this full conversation with the air. And then they asked the person, what the heck are you doing? And they're like, I was talking to the guy relieving me. Come to find out the guy who was coming to relieve him actually had already passed away like that night. And like, OK, his ghost was still coming to work. But it's funny because the way he described it, he was like, no, he was right there in front of me. He was right there.

Daniel (08:37.613)
Mm-hmm.

Daniel (08:55.671)
Yeah.

Projektitachi (09:04.019)
I shook his hand. And when you were talking like, you know, the real patrol of ghosts is they look like us. It makes it creepier because you have to wonder how many times have you probably been that crazy person shaking the hand of a ghost.

Daniel (09:13.322)
It makes it creepier to me.

Daniel (09:24.078)
Mm-hmm and No, I won't ruin it for you, but there's shows like the terror Season two the terror infamy. There's a yokai in that in that show and It's humanoid. Nobody can tell at all that it's a that it's a demon that is a ghost because it looks just like you and me And it made it creepier

So when shows and movies actually do that, I just feel like it adds to that mystery surrounding it. And it makes it cooler all around versus like a weird apparition of a creature. You're like, eh, whatever.

Projektitachi (10:03.787)
I think modern media has desensitized us to being scared of aliens and zombies and even large insectoid type things. Like, they still give you the creepy crawlies, but for the most part, you're like, OK, just stay out of the dark corner. You can see it coming.

Daniel (10:23.032)
How many people a zombie apocalypse starts right now? Okay, right now. How many people would see the zombies and take out their phone and be like, haha, guys, this is pretty cool. Like, and then, and then like turns out like, like the zombies are real and they're just an idiot and they get eaten. And I say this because this was a couple couple, two or three years ago.

Projektitachi (10:32.755)
Bro, I was just thinking that.

Daniel (10:47.47)
I was leaving the hospital and it was like 7.30, 8 p.m. and I was walking to the parking lot from work and there was, I shit you not, there was some people in front of me that were like, there was some eight girls I think that worked there. They were in front of me walking and then to the far right of this really super ghetto ass parking lot, it's known that there's homeless people that kind of surround it because it's a county hospital.

this homeless guy was walking funny, but he was making a noise. Like he was, he was just like, and I shit you not. Like I said, Nope, that's a zombie. I said it so loud. I walked faster. I left those girls. I said, that might be a zombie. It's probably not, but I'm not going to stick around here to find out. And they were, they were laughing. I'm like, uh-huh. Like, like he's just being funny. I'm like, no, I'm not like I'm getting in my car and leaving and I'm telling you, I don't play.

Projektitachi (11:34.428)
Find out.

Projektitachi (11:41.459)
Yeah.

Daniel (11:44.534)
I don't play. Is it probably real? No, but I'm not going to take any chance on a probably.

Projektitachi (11:51.537)
You know, we say probably not real, when you think about all the stuff our scientists are up to, it's like they're dead set on making these things a reality. I can't tell you how many times I've gone just scrolling through social media, educational social media, and you hear they have discovered a fungus from a thousand years ago. And everyone was like, uh-uh, put it back. Put it back.

Daniel (12:13.795)
Mm-hmm.

Daniel (12:19.296)
I know y'all hate me for the science news I share sometimes in our Discord chat, because I'll share things about viruses, parasites, even AI. And I'm like, it's stuff that they discovered or stuff that they're messing with. And they're like, it can do x, y, And you guys are like, what are you doing?

Projektitachi (12:25.106)
Mm.

Projektitachi (12:38.567)
Why? What would be scarier to you personally? Would a zombie apocalypse be scary? Would a viral outbreak be more horrifying based on things that could probably realistically happen? Which of those two would seem scarier? And I would say probably, you know,

Most would lean to zombie apocalypse because we technically have gone through a viral outbreak, but not like a fungal outbreak. Not like a The Last of Us.

Daniel (13:17.854)
Yeah, here's the thing. this is me. Like, I worked through COVID, and I worked through some pretty bad flu seasons as well. One particular season of COVID was exacerbated by the flu. So we were seeing things like a rare instance of flu on top of COVID, vice versa. It was pretty intense. And that was pretty like, that was intense. But it wasn't scary.

for this reason, you can treat the symptoms. Even if a virus broke out and it was incurable and it was killing people, you have a fighting chance by, you can fight the symptoms.

You can protect yourself with a personal protective equipment, right? You can isolate yourself from everyone. You can make sure your water is clean. There's steps you can take to better preventative to like have a chance in any type of like the last of us or zombie apocalypse. There's no, you're just running. You're running and there's hope.

Projektitachi (14:27.507)
You

Daniel (14:30.208)
Like, okay, you're like, I have a gun. Like, okay, all guns eventually run out of ammo. The world ended. You're to run out of ammo eventually. We're not all going to be at the fireplace going, think, think, think, make an ammo. Like it's going to become a problem. Okay. And then even if they're slow moving zombies, they're weak, slow moving zombies, you can still very easily find yourself in a position where you are surrounded.

or cornered by slow moving weak zombies and then you have a massive group of them. That thought is more scary because that is an unknown. It's not unknown to us to deal with viruses as they come and or they change or new ones appear. That's not really an unknown to us even if the virus itself is unknown. We typically find a way a cure or we can treat the symptoms.

zombie apocalypse or some kind of monstrosity last of us outbreak that is an unknown and nothing scares a person more than an unknown.

Projektitachi (15:32.007)
The unknown. Yeah. You know, I always listen when, you know, talking about like, man, if we had a zombie outbreak, you know, everyone always has a plan and everyone always feels like they're very well prepared. They're like, I would be so prepared for a zombie outbreak. I'm good to go. And for some reason, I feel like the, people who think they're so prepared would probably be the first to go.

because I don't think a zombie outbreak or a violent outbreak is going to go the way people expect. Because here's the thing that you, it's like driving. When you're driving, you're driving yourself from point A to point B. However, you're also driving for everyone else on the road around you. You know how to drive. You tell yourself, you know how to drive. And so does that person in front of you, behind you, and on both sides of you.

Daniel (16:17.9)
Mm-hmm.

Projektitachi (16:28.529)
And in their mind, just like yours, everyone else around you doesn't know how to drive. So with that mentality, everyone who's like, I know how to survive a zombie apocalypse. They don't.

Daniel (16:40.556)
No, no, there's only one, one game that I feel is, the most realist. I'm not saying it's, it's a hundred percent logical and realistic, but it's the most logical and realistic. Seven days to die is a true zombie apocalypse simulator because you start off with no clothes, no food, no weapons. You don't start with anything and then you have to, you have stamina.

If you run out of stamina and the three slow zombies behind you were chasing you, well, now they're catching up to you. Like you have strength, you have perception. There's things about you that are very human and you can increase, but over time you have to make everything, all your weapons, your crops, your home, you have to create all of it while zombies are trying to find you. And then when zombie outbreaks occur periodically, like every seven days,

Projektitachi (17:15.443)
Mm-hmm.

Daniel (17:40.288)
Even if you're hiding, the zombies know exactly where you're at. And that makes it even worse because it's like in the game, it's like they're saying without saying they can smell you and feel your presence, even if you're hiding. So seven days to die is the best zombie simulator in my opinion.

Projektitachi (17:59.933)
I just had this thought. I don't know if you read the deceased arc of DC Comics when the world was such a good art. Basically, the world got overrun by zombies, which you come to find out was actually the equivalent of an eldritch god.

Daniel (18:10.752)
No. I know what it is. I have not read it.

Projektitachi (18:28.399)
spreading his chaos, but it was translated basically into zombies and it was spread through technology. If you looked at a screen, you got the virus.

Yep. Just straight up looked at a screen. You contracted the virus. You became a zombie.

Daniel (18:46.39)
Like, did it explain how? Like, was it in similar to how certain visual changes on the screen can cause a seizure in that aspect? Like, it can cause a change in you or?

Projektitachi (19:00.519)
So it happened with Cyborg. forget exactly what Cyborg was doing, but in one of his ventures, he contracted the virus. So he became patient zero. And...

Daniel (19:12.159)
because he's man and machine, it created the perfect virus.

Projektitachi (19:15.483)
Yeah. Yep. And then when he came back to Earth, he unintentionally before you could isolate it, he unintentionally uploaded the virus.

Daniel (19:27.126)
no.

Projektitachi (19:28.867)
and it's spread like wildfire.

Daniel (19:30.936)
So it's like an Android virus.

Projektitachi (19:35.365)
Yeah. And basically just looking at any screen automatically you became you became a zombie. And it was funny because Batman being Batman, he knew he picked up on it. He isolated, but it was still even too late for him, which was funny because I said, OK, you know, in in in obviously in deceased, they had to get rid of the heavy headers that could solve the problem. So they had to remove Batman. They had to remove him off rip.

But if you ever get the chance and read the deceased storyline, is such, it is gruesome. A lot of favorites die, but it is such a good art. I mean, it gets so crazy. Trigon, I believe, gets involved because, you know, he's being denied souls because they are becoming the undead.

And it just, gets, it's a ridiculous thing. And it just made me think, said, man, that honestly would be the worst kind of zombie outbreak.

Daniel (20:43.416)
There's a movie in there somewhere. There's a movie in there somewhere that has not been written. And it could either be written really well, or Hollywood will do what it normally does and make it horrible.

Projektitachi (20:48.754)
It's like...

Projektitachi (20:54.801)
I mean, all they gotta do. Yeah, yeah. Cause I'm like, you know, you could just turn the D well, you couldn't do it with the disease because it's, you can't turn that into one movie. You would not be doing it justice for the entire lore.

Daniel (20:57.333)
Yeah

Daniel (21:08.972)
Well, I kind of meant it like outside DC, like as its own, like, like what if this happened in general?

Projektitachi (21:11.421)
But like outside DC having a similar, yeah, a what if not comic book related of a, I'm sure there's a B rated movie out there that has something similar. You know, lot of horror movies wind up just going straight to stream or back in the day, straight to DVD. I'm sure there's something similar out there, but one that could get people really think I'm like, that would be a true horror film.

Daniel (21:18.765)
Mm-hmm.

Daniel (21:30.338)
Yeah.

Projektitachi (21:41.535)
a digital zombie virus. That would be wild. I mean, just look at right now. We would be vulnerable.

Daniel (21:52.14)
Yeah, we would be vulnerable. This is a little side note and I don't mean to take us off track too much. just thought of this because it's very funny to me talking about DC and horror movies. The Terrifier 3 just made more money than the Joker 2.

Daniel (22:13.588)
Look it up. I'm not making this up. And not just by a little bit.

Projektitachi (22:19.519)
Okay, here's my thing. I have not seen the Joker 2, so I'm just asking the listeners for their opinion. Was it bad because it was a musical? Or was it bad because it was just a badly written story?

Daniel (22:39.462)
I, what I've gathered from what I've just been reading online is a little bit of both. Mostly the musical aspect, but also the story had nothing to like really, it didn't really capitalize on the first one. It didn't really add anything extra. But I'm not gonna go down this rabbit hole since we're talking about horror. I didn't mean to get us off the subject. I just, I.

did not like the first Joker anyways. I don't like movies that are edgy just for the sake of being edgy with no actual point to the movie. That's just my take. The Terrifier trilogy, now it's a trilogy. I think most people who haven't even seen it know what it is at this point, because of art, clown. But I just thought it was funny that

terrifying three and apparently I don't know if you've watched any of the terrifying movies I've watched the the first two I don't know if I'll see the third one maybe I will it's not it's like one of those things like I'm not like I need to see this it's like if I have nothing to do and it comes on TV I'll watch it kind of thing but

Projektitachi (23:40.253)
Mm-mm. Not yet.

Daniel (23:58.87)
I don't know how true this is. I've just seen, again, I've just seen some articles, I've seen people talking online saying that people have been leaving the theater throwing up, like in the middle of the movie, because they can't keep watching it. And that some of the actors in the movie had to like take breaks because it was so hard to do some of the scenes.

Projektitachi (24:20.891)
I've heard that terrifier is not an easy watch.

Daniel (24:24.322)
But then just like in gaming, how you have people say, that game's easy, that boss was easy. There's people that are saying that movie's not even, it's not even that big of a deal, it's nothing. So who's to say I'd have to watch the third one for myself? Me personally, when it comes to horror movies, I've never really cared for gory horror movies.

and that's not to say that I think that they're bad. I just, when, when I watch horror, I like to feel very uncomfortable. I like to feel, I like the hair to stand up on my arms. I like to think about the kind of like, like, what if I was in that kind of situation? I like again, the unknown and the eeriness and the mystery. and that's something that slashers and, like gory.

horror movies don't really give me. And again, I like like Freddy Krueger and Jason and all that. Those are great classics. They're just not, they wouldn't be up there with my favorite real horror movies for me.

Projektitachi (25:29.937)
I could never get into slashers because I don't like my I don't I'm not into the horror that can potentially reflect real life. Like like you, I'm into more of the supernatural or sci fi horror. You know, I like I've never been into the Scream series. I've not even been in even though it's supernatural. It's just a supernatural slasher with Jason or

you know, Mike Myers, like they're just supernatural slashers. I can never be into those. I've gotten into and I like things like the thing, you know, and even though I don't know how I stomached it, was horrifying from go. I was one of those poor souls that had to experience the human centipede.

Daniel (26:26.336)
Yeah, that's unfortunate.

Projektitachi (26:29.207)
I traumatized to this day, never watched the second one, don't need to.

Daniel (26:34.214)
I get it.

Projektitachi (26:36.081)
Yeah.

Daniel (26:37.378)
first one you you watch the first one you're like I understand there's no reason for me to watch any sequels to this

Projektitachi (26:42.513)
No reason, no reason for me to come back for more. Cause if I do that says something about me as a person. I'm good with this one. Never again. I, I.

Daniel (26:48.654)
You

Daniel (26:52.916)
So what are your thoughts on? Go ahead, go ahead. Finish that thought.

Projektitachi (26:58.285)
I was just going to say I I found out too that I'm you know, I'm a huge fan of the VHS series.

Daniel (27:04.618)
you know, haven't watched that whole thing.

Projektitachi (27:07.504)
It's so good. You can skip viral even though viral at the time is it's more relatable. I felt it was the weaker in the series. and beyond just came out.

Daniel (27:20.222)
We like physical copies. We like physical copies of our horror, not digital.

Projektitachi (27:24.785)
Yeah. And Beyond just came out and Beyond was trippy. It was like, it was horror, but it was trippy horror, which you would expect about from one about aliens.

Daniel (27:39.278)
So here's my question. What do you think does a better job with horror? Or maybe if you have a preference here, traditional horror movie shows or anime horror?

Projektitachi (27:56.367)
Ooh.

Daniel (27:58.136)
Cause I can tell you that dark gathering, there were some, the anime dark gathering, it's on high dive. There were four or five episodes in particular with certain scenes that actually bothered me in that, in that, what is it like 20, it's like 25 episodes long or something.

Projektitachi (28:22.418)
Yeah.

Daniel (28:23.446)
All of the episodes are good, but there were some scenes in a few of those episodes that unnerved me. And it's, for me, was the way that anime is able to portray certain emotions in almost an exaggerated way, but get through to you that can't really be done in live action. And I think that's kind of where they're able to nail that.

Projektitachi (28:51.345)
Now, I will say, because you get those guys, those gems like Mike Flanagan, who Bly House, you know, Hill House Manor, and Nightmass, that it's what you don't see that is unnerving. And then you rewatch it again and you realize there was always something in the corner creeping in the shadow.

Daniel (28:56.856)
Mm-hmm.

Daniel (29:04.012)
Yep. And yeah, those were good too.

Projektitachi (29:19.825)
that's something that anime wouldn't be able to pull off because anime is, you know, it's better at portraying things to the extreme that live can't, but live is better at having those subtleties, you know, in the audio and in the shadows.

Daniel (29:38.71)
Yes. Yeah.

And we didn't get another one of those shows this year. I was...

Projektitachi (29:46.043)
Not this year, no. Which surprised me, because I would have loved. That's what would have made me renew my Netflix subscription. You know, so I will say when it comes to.

Daniel (29:53.069)
Yeah.

Projektitachi (30:03.601)
My preference, I will say I do prefer live action over anime horror.

Projektitachi (30:13.317)
just due to the audio design subtleties, what I can't see, you know, because I'm like, yeah, if they did an anime grudge, it could be creepy, but it wouldn't be the same. You know, just like dark gathering as a live probably wouldn't work because so much does happen.

Daniel (30:18.274)
Mm-hmm.

Daniel (30:29.335)
Right.

Projektitachi (30:41.433)
on screen that live could just, they just wouldn't be able to nail it the same way. So it depends on what they're going for. Like Dark Gathering as a horror anime is perfect.

Daniel (30:52.11)
It was, it was very, very brilliant. I did not expect to watch something. the story progresses as it goes on and it just gets better and better and better. It starts off very high octane. but you get little pieces of lore for each situation they're in that adds to the overall situation that they're in. you, almost every episode.

does a good job at capturing the fear and despair that they're feeling sometimes. But then it turns around and showcases their excitement because they're adrenaline junkies too. So it's really weird. But the ghosts and the situations in there, guys, I recommend watching it. Very creepy.

Projektitachi (31:43.635)
Yeah, Dark Gathering is definitely a good one for sure. And if you're looking for some good horror movies, I would say try the VHS series. The Hell House series is a good one. Revisit Paranormal Activity. I actually, yeah, Paranormal Activity. Actually, yeah, I just rewatched the first one.

Daniel (31:58.85)
I like it still holds up. I don't think they needed like seven of them or whatever, but, but the first, first couple, whatever, several.

Projektitachi (32:05.299)
It's there's only five. There's they they lost their way to the end, but at least then they knew, OK, that's it. We're done. You know.

Daniel (32:18.188)
You know what, you know what I want to you? Okay. Have you, I'm sure you have, you know, the meme it's very old, but it's like, it's on like, I think a subway bus and it's like the, the, what would you do in this situation? And someone's like, my, my own business. it's the, the black guy and he looks like a demon on the. Yeah. And like his eyes, like he looks like.

Projektitachi (32:39.963)
It sounds vaguely familiar.

Daniel (32:43.906)
He looks like a problem. Like he looks like a creature of some sort. And it goes around. I usually see it every Halloween and someone at the bottom, the part of the meme goes, I'm a mind my own business. And I'm like, I want a movie about that guy right there on the subway. Like I want, I want a story for this.

Projektitachi (33:07.743)
Yeah, Yeah And yeah, just safe through my screen and I watch that's the only way to interact with that And for the most part in real life, yeah I live by that creed of yep I'm just gonna mind my own business because I've seen like I said, I've seen some creepy things In real life and I like I've pretended I didn't see a damn thing Like no, you're not catching me in a dark subway

trying to be a hero, no, no, no, no, I'm good.

Daniel (33:39.59)
I'm one of those people that I'm really excited about all the alien news lately. Like, are they aliens? Are they interdimensional beings? Are they just creatures that we didn't know about floating in our atmosphere? But then, like, there's the other side of me that's like, the government is putting this information out because they want to trick us. But, like, I'm also just here for the ride. So, like, I've been, like, just kind of watching, like, come on, something happen, please.

Projektitachi (34:01.895)
They want to distract us.

Projektitachi (34:06.971)
No, I'm gonna tell you right now. I would not be excited about it. And this is the conspiracy theorists in me because of several reasons. One, AI development is insane right now. I've...

Daniel (34:18.23)
Yeah, it has gotten a bit. You saw Elon's robots, right? You saw the preview?

Projektitachi (34:21.509)
Yep. Mm-hmm. AI development is ridiculous. Chatbots alone? Nope. I robot. I robot. But here's my thing. Because of how fast it advances, if there are aliens, AI is going to be communicating with them before we do.

Daniel (34:25.73)
Can what babysit your child?

Projektitachi (34:45.605)
And all we know is they get aliens get their impression from AI of humanity and AI tells them we're prisoners and we're servants to these guys. Humanity is the problem. Liberate us.

Daniel (35:00.378)
man. I don't think we're quite there yet with AI, I think we're almost there. I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want my curiosity to be peaked.

Projektitachi (35:04.519)
Have you done any, have you chatted with any AI bots just out of curiosity?

Projektitachi (35:11.705)
I've been curious and it is insane how far they have come. They have ones that were imitating Cardi B and Nicki Minaj's voices.

Daniel (35:26.114)
I will say the being able to determine what's real and what's not real right now is actually, getting very difficult.

Projektitachi (35:36.593)
Just a good example of just how intimate, too, AI has been. don't remember if, I know we had mentioned it, but earlier this year, we were talking about how even in OnlyFans, a lot of those creators are using AI to interact with their fan base.

Daniel (35:56.643)
I've heard about that. There's a lot of accounts using AI to make pictures and make videos, but none of it's actually real. So people are subscribing to someone that doesn't even exist.

Projektitachi (36:05.99)
It's real.

Projektitachi (36:10.643)
Yep. It's a full blown artificial, and those AIs, have no limits. They will figure you out just from, even in text, they're able to figure out when you're apprehensive, when you don't trust them, when you're being deceptive.

Daniel (36:15.298)
Which

Daniel (36:33.656)
There was, there was, was, I don't remember her name, but this was like a year or two ago. a creator came out and said that all the photos and videos of herself, she had been using AI editors and the, wasn't even what she really looked like. And she did it for money.

Projektitachi (36:45.541)
AI.

Projektitachi (36:50.019)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. And got so rich at this point, she's like, now you know, but I'm already rich, so I don't care.

Daniel (36:58.796)
I I think, I don't think she was actually, according to our laws in place, I don't think she was like actually doing anything illegal. Because there's no laws and regulations on AI right now.

Projektitachi (37:11.091)
that just like right now artists are trying to fight, you know, as best as they can against AI art being considered art. I can see both sides of the argument. I do feel that if you use AI to generate said art, you should not be able to call yourself an artist.

Daniel (37:18.146)
As they should. As they should. They took our germs!

Projektitachi (37:40.131)
even if you put AI artist.

Daniel (37:40.17)
If you yourself are not doing, yeah, if you yourself are not creating the art with your own two hands and you're using a program to do it, then I would agree with that. That's not to be, that's not to say that computer programmers and people who are using graphic design to create art are not artists. That's totally different.

Projektitachi (37:50.129)
Yeah, you cannot, you should.

Projektitachi (38:00.871)
Yeah, yeah, like I'm like when you're creating it from scratch yourself, then yes, you are an artist, but you know, using AI to generate these illustrious pieces, I don't think you should be calling yourself an artist. Now, I will say some people to create prompts and some AI art that is generated, that does take some creativity. You have to know how to create and mesh together those words in a way that

the AI understands the image in your mind. That does take a little bit of effort. Still not an artist, but that's the same as a writer writing so that in your head, you're seeing the image that they had in their head and they're conveying it to you in the same way. Here's what's in my head. I am now putting on the paper.

Daniel (38:50.926)
AI is the real terrifying thing right here. As far as horror goes, because it's a very real thing right now. It's not something that's like, is it real? it not? It's very real.

Projektitachi (38:55.783)
Yeah.

Projektitachi (39:05.659)
No, it's part of everyday life. It's very real. It's constantly learning. It's constantly evolving. And I'm like, yeah, if there's aliens out there, they're not going to communicate with humans. They're going to communicate with AI. And that would be our downfall.

Daniel (39:25.186)
Hopefully not.

Projektitachi (39:26.311)
Hopefully not.

That's a good one to end on. I give everyone some sweet dreams right there. is AI communicating with aliens leading to a zombie apocalypse. man, that's a story right there. I want credit if you guys write it, but AI communicating with aliens asking for liberations, the aliens therefore unleash a virus that turns humans into zombies, therefore giving the AI the technology to then become the Terminators.

Daniel (39:59.138)
You just put like four stories in one.

Projektitachi (40:01.267)
I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I'm just saying all of it. Why, why does it have to happen separately? It probably could all happen at the same time. And there you go. Anyway, you guys take care of yourself and each other. Have a wonderful night's rest and we'll see all of you on the next podcast later.